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Woodworkers Discuss their Woodshops: Woodchat Transcript February 15, 2012

On February 15 Woodchat got together to share their woodshops and discuss shop tips.

Woodchat Transcript February 15, 2012 6pm Pacific/9pm Eastern

@Torch02: In case you have yet to be followed by it, there is a @WIAConference account, now up & running #woodchat

@Seanw78: @WIAConference: WIA = The Ultimate Woodworking Weekend” all the cool kids are going. You should too. #woodchat

@2Sand: RT @Torch02: In case you have yet to be followed by it, there is a @WIAConference account, now up & running #woodchat

@DyamiPlotke: RT @Torch02: In case you have yet to be followed by it, there is a @WIAConference account, now up & running #woodchat

@uppercutwood: Hey #woodchat share your shop on the G+ page for tonight http://t.co/QDSPcgT2 and we’ll talk shop tonight at 6pm P/9pm E

@DJOfurnituremkr: What is tonight’s topic? #woodchat

@1snugthejoiner: RT @Torch02: In case you have yet to be followed by it, there is a @WIAConference account, now up & running #woodchat

@benjamenjohnson: @uppercutwood How do you share something so it shows up on the G+ woodchat Page? #woodchat

@benjamenjohnson: @uppercutwood I assume you mean share in the comments of tonight’s woodchat post that doesn’t exist? #woodchat

@Torch02: Not sure if I’ll make #woodchat tonight, but here is my garage layout plan (not all tools have been acquired) http://t.co/u5KetCBB

@DyamiPlotke: RT @uppercutwood: Hey #woodchat share your shop on the G+ page for tonight http://t.co/QDSPcgT2 and we’ll talk shop tonight at 6pm P/9pm E

@DyamiPlotke: @uppercutwood I shared videos & pictures of my shop on G+ yesterday with the #woodchat hashtag.

@DyamiPlotke: @DJOfurnituremkr shops on #woodchat tonight.

@DyamiPlotke: RT @Torch02: Not sure if I’ll make #woodchat tonight, but here is my garage layout plan (not all tools have been acquired) http://t.co/u5KetCBB

@WatkinsWoodWork: May not be making #woodchat That makes me a sad panda…

@FlairWoodworks: #Woodchat in 15 minutes. Right now, I’m watching @RenaissanceWW live at http://t.co/1XcSZwKs

@ChrisHasFlair: @Torch02 @SMeekWoodworks @Tumblewood I talked to Nigel Whitton in November about resurrecting http://t.co/LS1A4WPA #woodchat

@DJOfurnituremkr: Hi Everyone! #woodchat

@DyamiPlotke: RT @WatkinsWoodWork May not be making #woodchat That makes me a sad panda… <- I may be a sad panda too. 🙁

@ChrisHasFlair: I’ll be a couple minutes late #woodchat

@lucaspeters: Howdy wood chat! What’s the topic? #woodchat

@ramblinrdesigns: Hi. Going to have to jump back and forth between tweetchat and Shannon’s Renaissance Woodworker live demo tonight. #woodchat

@benjamenjohnson: @lucaspeters Shop layout or something like that…everybody is supposed to share their shop #woodchat

@thewoodninja: Evening fellas #woodchat

@FromTheWoodshop: Hey Guys… how’s everyone? #woodchat

@thewoodninja: @FromTheWoodshop Hey Andy #woodchat

@DJOfurnituremkr: I can share my old shop: http://t.co/9SLZuVcH #woodchat

@benjamenjohnson: Where’s everybody else? #woodchat

@lucaspeters: Hmm. I have a sketchup file of it somewhere. Don’t think it’s quite up-to-date. I’ll dig around. #woodchat

@benjamenjohnson: @DJOfurnituremkr Wow, that’s a lot of space. I love the flooring! #woodchat

@FromTheWoodshop: kinda sounded like it was going to be a light crowd tonight… Just got home myself. head burried in sawdust, shop is a disaster #woodchat

@uppercutwood: Finally here, how is everyone! #woodchat

@DJOfurnituremkr: @benjamenjohnson It was 3,000 sf with hard maple floors. It was in an old mill. #woodchat

@uppercutwood: The topic tonight is shop talk: share your current shop and dream shop, and get feedback, discuss frustrations, discuss benefits #woodchat

@FromTheWoodshop: unfortunately didn’t have time to put a sketch together of the shop 🙁 #woodchat

@FromTheWoodshop: Hey Matt #woodchat

@uppercutwood: People have been posting their shops to the Woodchat G+ page at http://t.co/jSjJkotf #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @DJOfurnituremkr How do I get that shop at my place 🙂 #woodchat

@thewoodninja: @benjamenjohnson I have a feeling a lot of guys are watching Shannon’s broadcast. #woodchat

@uppercutwood: Is that right now? I thought that was over by now. Should we move #woodchat to not collide with HTS? #woodchat

@DJOfurnituremkr: @uppercutwood It was a great place, only $750 a month. #woodchat

@benjamenjohnson: @thewoodninja is there a link? #woodchat

@e5jharris: ya people are droping off from Shannon thou #woodchat

@FromTheWoodshop: I thought I saw his broadcast started same time as this… #woodchat

@thewoodninja: @benjamenjohnson http://t.co/cmBLrGY3 #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @benjamenjohnson if you are in the Hand Tool School, you have the link #woodchat

@uppercutwood: Questions: how many square feet are you currently working in? Is your shop dedicated or shared space? #woodchat

@thewoodninja: @e5jharris Wow. Yeah. Less than half of what I saw 10 minutes ago. We are probably good to go @uppercutwood #woodchat

@e5jharris: dont need to be in the school to watch just cant chat. #woodchat

@benjamenjohnson: @thewoodninja @uppercutwood OK I’m there now #woodchat

@DJOfurnituremkr: I went from shop to studio. My current studio influenced the type of work I do now. Current studio is just under 200sf. #woodchat

@thewoodninja: @uppercutwood 375 sq. ft. of dedicated space #woodchat

@lucaspeters: OK. Here’s the rough shop layout as I originally envisioned it. 1 stall of 2 car garage. #woodchat http://t.co/Kgqr8fVs

@benjamenjohnson: @uppercutwood Questions: 18’x17′, dedicated basement addition. #woodchat

@Seanw78: @uppercutwood one corner of the basement, approx. 13×13 7ft. ceiling. It’s cozy! #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @DJOfurnituremkr under 200 sf wow! are you happy/productive in that space? #woodchat

@e5jharris: mine is 120sf barn roofed shed #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @Seanw78 Wow, you better stop growing! #woodchat

@benjamenjohnson: I know it’s off topic but what is Shannon making? #woodchat

@ramblinrdesigns: @uppercutwood In and around 1000 sq. ft. #woodchat

@thewoodninja: Everything in my shop is on wheels except for my tablesaw and outfeed table/workbench #woodchat

@woodcanuck: Dedicated workshop, stolen from my 1950’s 2 car garage…about 200sq ft. #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @ramblinrdesigns very nice! #woodchat

@DJOfurnituremkr: @uppercutwood You bet! I’m more hand tool based now though so it works fantastic for me. Also, I don’t use sheet goods. #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @woodcanuck Hey Ian good to see you. I loved your #getwoodworking post #woodchat

@ramblinrdesigns: My apologies for not taking photos. Been too busy to get it cleaned up enough for show. #woodchat

@FromTheWoodshop: My shop is used for boat work 6 months of the year, other 6 months it’s a wood shop. Tools have dedicated locations though. #woodchat

@SMeekWoodworks: I guess I should go downstairs and measure up my shop space. It’s small, I know that. #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @dyamiplotke posted pictures and video of his shop upgrades, insulation was a major concern, how do you heat/cool your shops? #woodchat

@thewoodninja: My goal this year is to add another 225 sq ft for assembly & finishing #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @FromTheWoodshop shops with dedicated locations for tools tend to be larger, how big is your shop? #woodchat

@ramblinrdesigns: @uppercutwood Fans in summer and an electric wall heater in winter. #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @SMeekWoodworks I met @hocktools last weekend, great guy! #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @SMeekWoodworks I’ll be building his block plane soon #woodchat

@benjamenjohnson: Anybody see Eric’s Efficient shop on the wood whisperer this week: http://t.co/Xtf395xX #woodchat

@uppercutwood: How many of you have tried to optimize the flow in your shop? #woodchat

@woodcanuck: @uppercutwood: thx, glad I got a chance to be here again, been a long time. #woodchat #getwoodworking wk was great, I had fun.

@ramblinrdesigns: Plus walls and ceiling are insulated. #woodchat

@thewoodninja: Couple of posts I did a while back of my shop. Pics need to be updated though. http://t.co/xr4r5Avo http://t.co/oyX6IB0a #woodchat

@SMeekWoodworks: @uppercutwood Sweet. Haven’t got to meet him yet, just talked to him. Have fun with the block plane! #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @benjamenjohnson yes that’s part of why we’re discussing shops. I liked that shop. #woodchat

@FromTheWoodshop: shop space is little over 1600 sf.. overall building is just over 2200.. but has office, util, storage, etc…. #woodchat

@DJOfurnituremkr: Here is a photo of the studio my wife took when first started setting up after painting: http://t.co/yjXhUwVt #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @SMeekWoodworks much cheaper (about 1/3 the cost) of buying a nice metal block plane. I used the demo plane it was sweet. #woodchat

@lucaspeters: @uppercutwood Just installed this electric heater in the fall: http://t.co/2HJBARBH I’ve been very happy with it. #woodchat

@ramblinrdesigns: @uppercutwood Main recent redo was to place the table saw, band saw and jointer in an “L” to lessen vac travel length. #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @lucaspeters my current shop is heated with a gas stove, but it takes up floor space. Next shop I want those heaters. #woodchat

@woodcanuck: @uppercutwood: evolving as a woodworker over the last few years is making me optimize and reoptimize my space. #woodchat

@ramblinrdesigns: @ramblinrdesigns Oops, sorry, “U” shape. #woodchat

@FromTheWoodshop: Here’s some construction pics, unfortunately don’t have any interior / finished pics.. http://t.co/8ECKCnzg #woodchat

@SMeekWoodworks: @uppercutwood I LOVE my wood block planes. I’m missing the one that @RenaissanceWW has right now for review. #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @Torch02 and I shared drawings of our dream shops with the Woodchat G+ page #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @woodcanuck I’ve found that the perfect shop layout doesn’t exist, perfect shops are flexible and adapt with the worker and work #woodchat

@ramblinrdesigns: I also have a separate finishing area with a ceiling vent fan which comes in handy. #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @FromTheWoodshop do you mind sharing approximate costs per sf to build that shop? #woodchat

@thewoodninja: @uppercutwood My dad used to say that if I found the perfect shop I should leave it alone because I would just screw it up #woodchat

@SMeekWoodworks: I downgraded my shape space when I moved to Asheville. Was in 4k sq ft, now it’s probably around 200 sq ft. MUCH happier now. #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @ramblinrdesigns very nice shop setup Beth! #woodchat

@ravinheart: @ramblinrdesigns I have the finishing area like that started .. working on the vent fan #woodchat

@HighRockWW: @lucaspeters how tell her it is shop necessity! 🙂 #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @SMeekWoodworks the George Carlin effect? #woodchat

@ramblinrdesigns: Listed some tools that don’t get much use on craigslist today to clear up some shelf space. #woodchat

@HighRockWW: @lucaspeters it is a similar layout to what I have but bench in the middle. I have also take over both sides. 🙂 #woodchat

@BobbyHagstrom: @lucaspeters @uppercutwood Nice! Two radiant heaters (120V, 1600W) have been enough to heat my shop in the California “winter”. #woodchat

@DJOfurnituremkr: @SMeekWoodworks Same here, most people over estimate what they really need. It all depends on your work. Look at Krenov’s space. #woodchat

@woodcanuck: @uppercutwood: I agree, depends what I’m working on…stuff on wheels helps, but my flow changes throughout a project. #woodchat

@FromTheWoodshop: @uppercutwood Sure, but cost per SF is going to be very inflated due to the height of the building (20′ side walls).. #woodchat

@SMeekWoodworks: @uppercutwood My brain quit around 7pm tonight. you lost me there. #woodchat

@ravinheart: @BobbyHagstrom basement workshops are great in wisconsin heat in the winter and air in the summer #woodchat

@HighRockWW: @SMeekWoodworks I can tell you that a bigger shop is not always better. Bigger means more clutter… #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @woodcanuck and flow changes per project: if you build the same thing over and over, your shop could be static. #woodchat

@SMeekWoodworks: @DJOfurnituremkr The only thing wrong with my current space is low ceiling height and lack of windows. #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @SMeekWoodworks George Carlin had a skit about getting more space just means getting more crap, so then you need more space #woodchat

@DozersWorkshop: @uppercutwood my garage is about 360 sq ft and is definitely shared #woodchat

@ramblinrdesigns: Recently added a second workbench. Love the extra workspace, especially since I tend to work on multiple projects at once. #woodchat

@SMeekWoodworks: @uppercutwood Ahhh, yeah, that is the truth. #woodchat

@FromTheWoodshop: Cost for the building, utilities, land, etc rolled in was around $60 / SF… #woodchat

@ramblinrdesigns: @HighRockWW Clutter is a constant, unfortunately. Been working on being more organised. #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @HighRockWW Agreed. There are books about that philosophy for houses. “Creating the Not So Big House” #woodchat

@HighRockWW: @lucaspeters aahhh good plan! #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @ramblinrdesigns I like having my bench away from the way so I can work from both sides or with a partner #woodchat

@JosephZirkelbac: @uppercutwood #woodchat

@I am getting ready to plan out my basement shop. What do I use to reduce noise transmission to the rest of the house”

@uppercutwood: @FromTheWoodshop 60 per sf is pretty good, where (city, state) is the shop located? how much did you do yourself? #woodchat

@scottweston: I bought my new house this past summer because of the second double car garage in the backyard specifically for shop use. #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @JosephZirkelbac double drywall on floating ceiling @dyamiplotke would know I bet #woodchat

@DJOfurnituremkr: @JosephZirkelbac Use hand tools 😉 #woodchat

@BobbyHagstrom: I came up with a layout that fits my most common workflow but put everything on locking casters to allow changes 4 project/growth. #woodchat

@HighRockWW: @uppercutwood A Pattern Language also talks about space and our feelings of comfort. #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @scottweston my wife wants to move, and she knows I’d be wanting a shop, so I am in design/costing mode #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @BobbyHagstrom that’s a smart move! #woodchat

@FromTheWoodshop: @uppercutwood I did all interior electrical, heat, framing, etc.. Only bought a finished shell. #woodchat

@WoodworkGuy: I have a detached 2 car garage with a boat on one side. All of my stuff is on locking casters to clear way for my truck. #woodchat

@scottweston: @JosephZirkelbac yes to double drywall and using green glue to dampen sound transmission #woodchat

@uppercutwood: In my corporate life, I am amazed about how much the space can influence the team #woodchat

@HighRockWW: @ramblinrdesigns it can be tough. I clean in my shop as much as I do actual woodworking #woodchat

@DozersWorkshop: @HighRockWW @uppercutwood I suggest a new book Feng Shui My Shop #woodchat

@FromTheWoodshop: @uppercutwood Northern Wisconsin (Herbster). Right on Lake Superior.. #woodchat

@HighRockWW: @DozersWorkshop @uppercutwood thanks I will check it out #woodchat

@uppercutwood: I wish I could get a TV show to “pimp my shop” 🙂 #woodchat

@WoodworkGuy: The garage is well insulated & has a gas-fired furnace . ive 1 bench mounted 2 the wall w/ tools mounted on pegs above it. #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @FromTheWoodshop Sounds great. If I could keep my costs to 60 per sf, I’d need $50k – anyone want to by a slightly used kidney? #woodchat

@ramblinrdesigns: My biggest issue is dust collection. I have several collection systems but none work as well as I would like. #woodchat

@BobbyHagstrom: @uppercutwood I had to come up w/ a “primary” layout because dustcollection & electrical had to be designed, and it works great. #woodchat

@BobbyHagstrom: RT @uppercutwood: I wish I could get a TV show to “pimp my shop” 🙂 #woodchat

@DozersWorkshop: @HighRockWW @uppercutwood sorry I rephrase… I suggest writing a new book… Maybe I found my meal ticket #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @BobbyHagstrom Yeah there is a primary flow of materials that needs to be accomodated: rough cut, mill, etc. #woodchat

@HighRockWW: @DozersWorkshop @uppercutwood haha! There you go…time to get writing! #woodchat

@ramblinrdesigns: @BobbyHagstrom I’d be happy with a show to come and clean it up. #woodchat

@FromTheWoodshop: One thing I do need to get under control is dust collection. Unfortunately blew my wad on the building… #woodchat

@woodcanuck: @uppercutwood: lol, until you find out it’s Roy and he takes all you power tools away, leaves you with a piece of flint. #woodchat

@BobbyHagstrom: @ramblinrdesigns Is it a central type system? #woodchat

@uppercutwood: I think that this chat will lead to some basic principles for shop design, along with some of the books I’ve been reading. #woodchat

@weilworks26: Sorry #woodchat I’ll post pics to G+ tomorrow. I’m just not able to tonight

@FromTheWoodshop: @ramblinrdesigns hear that!! #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @woodcanuck Or Dick Proennecke would leave you with nothing, you start from scratch http://t.co/qJuW7rFq #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @weilworks26 we look forward to it #woodchat

@BobbyHagstrom: I’ve found that leaving “sacred” open area space (no machines or storage there) for staging projects helps a lot. #woodchat

@uppercutwood: Do you segment your shops into machine room, bench/hand tool area, finishing area? #woodchat

@scottweston: My pool table shares the double garage with my shop. However i mounted it on heavy duty casters to push it out of the way. #woodchat”

@woodcanuck: Do you need dedicated finishing space? I would love to, but don’t find it practical. #woodchat

@uppercutwood: RT @HighRockWW: @uppercutwood here in Atl a small electric heater is all I need but the summers can be rough. I just use a fan. #woodchat

@DJOfurnituremkr: Found a photo of when I added the tool wall: http://t.co/TIPKTBwU #woodchat

@ramblinrdesigns: @BobbyHagstrom Central Delta plus two separate stand alone units for the miter saw and router table. #woodchat

@BobbyHagstrom: @uppercutwood I have a bench/ assembly table area, opposite side of milling area. Would like a separate outbuilding for finishing. #woodchat

@scottweston: I place a sheet of MDF over the pool table to use as an assembly platform #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @woodcanuck I want a dedicated spray room. proper ventilation segmented away from the rest of the shop. #woodchat

@uppercutwood: Then off the back of the shop is the “garden tool area” which would contain the cycle and air compressor if I needed one #woodchat

@scottweston: @woodcanuck I hang a plastic booth from the ceiling when I start my finishing. PVC piping and plastic sheets. Keeps dust down #woodchat

@FromTheWoodshop: @uppercutwood I feel your pain! except the shop area is essentially a spray booth. Sucks in the Winter though…. #woodchat

@BobbyHagstrom: @ramblinrdesigns I have a Jet DC-1100 central, ducted to each machine and it catches 80% + of dust. Want to add an air cleaner. #woodchat

@kring_l: sorry im late trying to catch up. and probably not much to add i just make the best of my basement #woodchat

@uppercutwood: I also want a sink and area for coffee maker, PC, paperwork, books, etc. kind of an office area #woodchat

@Black_SheepWW: Does anyone store their lumber if not in the shop? #Woodchat

@uppercutwood: Here’s what I’ve learned from y’all tonight: shops come in many sizes and all can be useful depending on the work & the woodworker #woodchat

@scottweston: @BobbyHagstrom I went cheap on the air cleaner with a 20″ box fan and mrv 13 furnace filters. #woodchat

@woodcanuck: @uppercutwood: put my DC and compressor outside the shop, makes it quieter and less dusty. #woodchat

@WoodworkGuy: @uppercutwood you make due with the space you have – and make the most of it. #woodchat

@BobbyHagstrom: @uppercutwood That’s something I’ve wanted for a long time. I have a high “attic” area that I’m turning into a loft space. #woodchat

@FlairWoodworks: Me too. RT @woodcanuck: @uppercutwood: put my DC and compressor outside the shop, makes it quieter and less dusty. #woodchat

@uppercutwood: My wife is now sending me pictures of shops she’s found on the internet, I guess that’s a great step! #woodchat

@benjamenjohnson: RT @HighRockWW: @ramblinrdesigns it can be tough. I clean in my shop as much as I do actual woodworking Yep. that sound right. #woodchat

@BobbyHagstrom: Putting the DC outside sucks a lot of air from the shop; during the winter that can send heated air outside. #woodchat

@FromTheWoodshop: @uppercutwood lifes better with team work 🙂 #woodchat

@FlairWoodworks: Me too. RT @woodcanuck: @uppercutwood: put my DC and compressor outside the shop, makes it quieter and less dusty. #woodchat

@uppercutwood: My wife is now sending me pictures of shops she’s found on the internet, I guess that’s a great step! #woodchat

@benjamenjohnson: RT @HighRockWW: @ramblinrdesigns it can be tough. I clean in my shop as much as I do actual woodworking Yep. that sound right. #woodchat

@BobbyHagstrom: Putting the DC outside sucks a lot of air from the shop; during the winter that can send heated air outside. #woodchat

@FromTheWoodshop: @uppercutwood lifes better with team work 🙂 #woodchat

@uppercutwood: I hope to get to see @Tumblewood ‘s shop this summer #woodchat

@Black_SheepWW: I’ve moved my shop around many times and went back to the original layout. My shop is in a small area in the basement. #woodchat

@uppercutwood: I’d also love to see @ToddinMontana ‘s shop #woodchat

@kring_l: used an old airhandler for air cleaner ran ducts to return air away from stairs to upstairs to keep the dust down from livingspace #woodchat

@FromTheWoodshop: @BobbyHagstrom That’s the issue I run into half of the year! Although this year has been mild… #woodchat

@HighRockWW: Time for me to crash…good night #woodchat

@ramblinrdesigns: Best move I made when designing the shop was putting in 9 foot ceilings. #woodchat

@lucaspeters: @msmegankathleen Topic is shops! Tell us about your shop layout, megan! #woodchat

@DJOfurnituremkr: Just remember it’s not the tools or shop that makes a great piece of furniture it’s the woodworker. #woodchat

@FromTheWoodshop: @HighRockWW Later! #woodchat

@FlairWoodworks: Mine are freakin’ 8′-1″ RT @ramblinrdesigns: Best move I made when designing the shop was putting in 9 foot ceilings. #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @ramblinrdesigns thanks for that tip. are you happy with your lighting? #woodchat

@ramblinrdesigns: And insulating everything. Mistake I made was not putting in a sink when I had the chance. Have to go into the house for that. #woodchat

@BobbyHagstrom: By taking some things out of my workflow paths (gardening tools, rarely used tools), I preserve valuable space for common things. #woodchat

@ToddInMontana: @uppercutwood Does everybody know you drive by my place every year to go fishing in Montana? #woodchat

@Black_SheepWW: @DJOfurnituremkr I feel a smaller shop helps make you more organized. #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @lucaspeters @msmegankathleen yeah let’s hear it! #woodchat

@DozersWorkshop: @uppercutwood sorry keep forgetting to hash tag #woodchat

@DJOfurnituremkr: See you all next week. #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @ToddInMontana yeah but they are jerks and not willing to stop #woodchat

@uppercutwood: RT @DozersWorkshop: @uppercutwood just make sure it is in a vented cabinet… W/ filters in vents to keep dust out #woodchat

@FromTheWoodshop: @DJOfurnituremkr night! #woodchat

@benjamenjohnson: @scottweston I have two box fans and filters… seems cheaper than a dedicated system and I can blow off the fans and use them. #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @DozersWorkshop just use http://t.co/XjehUYxu it does it automatically #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @DJOfurnituremkr thanks for sharing your photos tonight Dale #woodchat

@ramblinrdesigns: I have six 4′ ceiling mount lights in the main room and track lighting in the finish area. They cover the workspace pretty well. #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @Black_SheepWW we call that a forcing function #woodchat

@ToddInMontana: @uppercutwood Thanks for the chuckles:) #woodchat

@MansFineFurn: @SMeekWoodworks Same with me, I promise a shop tour video soon #woodchat

@uppercutwood: I really enjoy woodchat every week, thanks to everyone who showed up and contributed. #occupywoodshop this weekend! #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @ToddInMontana I think I need to either stay an extra day, or travel a day earlier #woodchat

@ramblinrdesigns: Plus dedicated lighting at the lathe and drill press. #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @MansFineFurn that would be awesome. I’d love to see it. #woodchat

@ToddInMontana: @uppercutwood That was what I figured – I hope that is what you do next time #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @ramblinrdesigns reminds me, I want a adjustable desk lamp for my workbench. #woodchat

@FromTheWoodshop: What is this #occupywoodshop? is it another chat room, or code for getting your a$$ in the shop?? #woodchat

@ramblinrdesigns: Other helpful area is a compost pile to dump all the sawdust and shavings in. #woodchat

@BobbyHagstrom: @ramblinrdesigns Yes! I finally put an architectural desk lamp at the drill press and I totally love it. #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @FromTheWoodshop code for getting your butt in the shop and being productive. Not code for camping in a city park. #woodchat

@ToddInMontana: @uppercutwood @theboisshop I just got in from meeting with client so I think I pretty much missed it too #woodchat

@benjamenjohnson: One thing I haven’t seen discussed. what is mobile in your shop and what is stationary #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @theboisshop Hey Rob! thanks for your feedback on my shop design. Want to buy a slightly used kidney? #woodchat

@MansFineFurn: @uppercutwood: Or Dick Proennecke would leave you with nothing, you start from scratch http://t.co/i1C9FBCt #woodchat He Rules; my dream!

@uppercutwood: @benjamenjohnson everything in my shop is mobile except my bench and my miter saw/stock breakdown area. #woodchat

@benjamenjohnson: For example my drill press and chop saw and other benchtop tools are pretty stationary and my table saw is mobile #woodchat

@lucaspeters: @benjamenjohnson Just made a giant mobile flip-top stand to hold most of my benchtop tools. It rolls out of the way under shelves #woodchat

@theboisshop: @uppercutwood Sure, just don’t try to sell me a liver 😉 #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @benjamenjohnson table saw, jointer, planer, spindle sander, mortiser, spray booth, bandsaw, drill press, all mobile. #woodchat

@kring_l: i keep most things in my shop at least semi mobile out of necessity it is a small space #woodchat

@FromTheWoodshop: @benjamenjohnson about the only thing mobile is the TS (cause that’s on retractable wheels!) and the DC 🙂 #woodchat

@ramblinrdesigns: @benjamenjohnson Jointer is mobile and I move it a little for infeed and outfeed clearance as needed. #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @MansFineFurn Dick Proennecke is the man. How many dudes could do that now? Maybe zero? Ditka? #woodchat

@scottweston: @benjamenjohnson mobile = tablesaw, jointer, setup table, lumber rack, bench top power tools, tool boxes fixed = 16′ bench #woodchat”

@uppercutwood: @lucaspeters pictures or it didn’t happen 🙂 #woodchat

@ToddInMontana: @benjamenjohnson I just posted a video with a good &n current look around my shop http://t.co/2lJ12rPp #woodchat

@uppercutwood: My things are mobile so I can expand when I pull Wifeys car out of the shop. #woodchat

@MansFineFurn: @uppercutwood I (literally) dream of doing it, but realistically, I wouldn’t make it. Just not manly enough #woodchat

@BobbyHagstrom: @benjamenjohnson I think the only thing not mobile in my shop is the assembly table and bench. Even DC has wheels! #woodchat

@lucaspeters: @uppercutwood Hmm. I’ll have to snap one. It’s massive. Holds planer, drum sander, oscillating spindle sander, benchtop jointer. #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @ramblinrdesigns I need to build mine, sheet goods on one side, clamps on the other #woodchat

@benjamenjohnson: I choose to put benches and counter tops all the way around the shop, most tools stay there, but I’m wondering if fewer… #woodchat

@DozersWorkshop: Everything is mobile right now… If something else isn’t stacked on top… #woodchat

@benjamenjohnson: surfaces and more mobile tools would work better. #woodchat

@ramblinrdesigns: My shop started out as an oversized two car garage only it has never seen a car. #woodchat

@FromTheWoodshop: OK, Goodnight everyone! I need to watch Bambi with daughter before bed:-) Have a good rest of the week! #woodchat

@uppercutwood: in my dream shop there are lots of windows. in between the windows there is tool storage. underneath there are few counters. #woodchat

@theboisshop: Wouldn’t it be nice though to have a shop layout where there was no need for mobile bases? #daretodream #woodchat

@uppercutwood: most tools are along the outside walls, with the TS in the middle #woodchat

@MansFineFurn: @DJOfurnituremkr where does one buy one of those? #woodchat

@BobbyHagstrom: @MansFineFurn My DC is inside, but you could get an “energy recovery” device that transfer heat between in/out airstreams. #woodchat

@ramblinrdesigns: Built this for clamps. Love it. http://t.co/7f9GdbfF #woodchat

@uppercutwood: @theboisshop if you did that, you’d have a mobile materials cart or assembly table 🙂 #woodchat

@benjamenjohnson: @uppercutwood Windows would be nice, but I’m afraid all I would see in my basement shop is snow (except this year) #woodchat

@lucaspeters: Here’s the sketchup. The platform is sort of a torsion box that swivels on a length of 1/2″ black pipe. #woodchat http://t.co/AMT2JvHG

@lucaspeters: @ramblinrdesigns I saw on your lumberjocks page that you’re from Edmond? I’m an Okie native myself. Most recently from Norman. #woodchat

@uppercutwood: Ok well that went fast, we’re officially “done” but woodchat never closes – chat on if you’d like. Transcripts posted soon. #woodchat

@DozersWorkshop: Night all and thanks for woodchat.. Time to write a book on shop flow 😉 #woodchat

@benjamenjohnson: Alright, need to see the kids off to sleep. Goodnight all. #woodchat

@ramblinrdesigns: @lucaspeters Cool. Are you still in Oklahoma? #woodchat

@WoodworkGuy: Take care everyone. #occupywoodshop #woodchat

@uppercutwood: Dick Proenecke’s simple hand tools for building a cabin http://t.co/cg9ulGep #woodchat

@kring_l: night all. i’ll try to be on time next week #woodchat

@lucaspeters: @ramblinrdesigns Iowa now for about 5 years. A lot of family back in OK though. #woodchat

@uppercutwood: Goodnight everyone, you rule! #woodchat

@woodcanuck: @theboisshop: I think I’d like minions in my shop…with ESP, getting me what I need before I know I need it. #kidsonlygosofar #woodchat

@MansFineFurn: @uppercutwood: Dick Proenecke’s simple hand tools for building a cabin http://t.co/FRbdQVs9 #woodchat GO WATCH THIS

@ramblinrdesigns: Sad to hear that. If you ever come through to visit, let me know. We can set up a face to face if you want. #woodchat

@woodcanuck: @uppercutwood: you too Matt. #woodchat #rules

@scottweston: @lucaspeters Where abouts? I am in waterloo/cedar falls area #woodchat

@theboisshop: @woodcanuck Ian, if you figure that out let me know, I want in on the ground floor! #woodchat

@ramblinrdesigns: Nice chat tonight. Moving on. Catch you next week. #woodchat

@lucaspeters: @scottweston Des Moines area. #woodchat

@weilworks26: #woodchat I dont know whats wrong but I cant see any shop plans or images on G+ besides the re-sharing of @@DyamiPlotke ‘s pics

@weilworks26: is there somewhere else I need to look besides the #woodchat home page on G+

@DyamiPlotke: @uppercutwood thanks for the mention. Sorry I missed #woodchat

Woodworking Shop Upgrades Part 1: Unpacking of Grizzly Jointer and Planer

More than ten years ago I bought a Delta 22-560 12 1/2” Planer and a Grizzly 1182ZX 6” Jointer. Both tools have served me well, and helped me create some great projects. I need some more capacity now that I’m taking on some bigger projects, and I was really interested in spiral cutterheads with carbide inserts. It’s a great innovation in woodworking tools and I’m excited for the noise reduction and convenience of the replaceable carbide inserts. Both were well taken care of and would be great tools for someone starting out. After a couple days on craigslist I’ve already sold them to a guy from Portland. Wifey will be pleased that soon she’ll be able to park in the garage again.

Attack of the Clones and the Lack of American Made Tools

Both the the new jointer and planer are critical pieces in any hybrid (power and hand-tool) shop. It’s important to start with square stock and these are the tools that do the bulk of that work. I looked at many manufacturers, and looked hard for American-made tools. Steel City and Delta were promising, but both seem to be made in China. The Delta DJ20, Steel City 8” Industrial Jointer and my Grizzly look like they come out of the exact same factory. I couldn’t find a jointer or planer made in the USA, and that’s too bad. I’m not worried about Grizzly quality for a few reasons: the tools I’ve owned have worked well, I talked to a lot of people about the tools, and they just did best in the Fine Woodworking Bandsaw tests.

So on Halloween night I ordered my long awaited Grizzly Polar Bear Series 15” Spiral Cutterhead Planer and 8” Parallelogram Spiral Cutterhead Jointer. They were delivered on November 5th, so that’s a speedy delivery. The UPS man (they bought a local heavy freight delivery company) unloaded them right into my garage with a pallet jack. I had taken the day off, so I was ready for them with a nice big spot all cleared out.

Wooden Crates and Greasy Steel

The Planer came in one large wooden crate and the Jointer came in two separate packages: a large cardboard box for the base (including the motor) and a very long wooden crate for the jointer bed, fence, and accessories. They were well packed and I was ready with cutters for the steel bands, a pry bar & hammer, and an empty truck ready to be filled with the Chinese version of Baltic birch plywood. The pallets were rickety and the boxes were easy to open, but the tools were well protected inside. I was not looking forward to lifting these heavy tools or dealing with all the grease, but I was keeping my eye on the prize: shiny new iron that cuts smooth and quiet.

Grizzly G0453PX 15

Grizzly G0490X 8

Unpacking an Aircraft Carrier

After a short time, I had the boxes mostly broken down. The jointer bed is bigger than I expected, and I’m glad both tools have integral mobile bases. Here’s the bed of the jointer, bolted to the bottom of the crate. Again this is covered in grease and the jointer will require more assembly than the Planer. Mike and I lifted this onto the base today, it was a little awkward because it is 76 1/2” long, but easier to lift than planer. I’ve never owned a Parallelogram Jointer before, and I’m excited to put it to use. This looks like an aircraft carrier in my garage, and I’m thinking if getting some model planes and toy soldiers to line up on the deck.

Grizzly G0490X 8

Check out this comparison shot, I think this is a great upgrade.

Comparison shot of Grizzly 8

Here’s the planer. Completely assembled except for the caster, height adjustment wheel, table extensions, and dust hood. Bolted to the floor of the crate and covered in grease. The P in the model number designates the Polar Bear series, and indeed this Planer was made in China. The black bars on either size of the logo pull out and are meant to facilitate picking up the Planer with a forklift. My buddy and I ignored that recommendation and lifted this off the pallet ourselves today.

Grizzly G0453PX Planer

This picture shows one of the major reasons I made these purchases, spiral cutterheads with carbide inserts. Quiet, clean, and convenient.

Grizzly G0453PX Planer Spiral Cutterhead

Initial Impressions and Recommendations

These tools were easy to order and arrived quickly. It was was easy to coordinate delivery with UPS and the driver had no problem taking these right into my garage. The packing material was intact which made me feel good about the contents. The crates were made well-enough but came apart easily with a hammer and pry bar. My recommendation is that as soon as you remove a panel from the crate dispose of it immediately. There is a lot of packing material and if you don’t get it in the back of the truck immediately it will get in the way. I took all the packing material to the dump today, it weighed in at 240 pounds including the pallets.

There was no rust at all because of all the grease. I suspect the factory workers get “grease dispersement bonuses” because even painted surfaces were coated. I have no idea how I am supposed to get the grease out of Planer Rollers and Anti-Kickback Fingers, and I already have a few little cuts on my hands from the sharp carbide inserts. I would like the option to have these cleaned and setup in at Grizzly in Bellingham (2 hours or so North of me) and then delivered clean and ready to go to my shop. I would have paid extra for that.

The manuals are clear, contain ample pictures, and are up-to-date. They encourage you to call if you have problems and that’s pretty rare in my experience, companies usually discourage phone calls by directing you to their website or punishing you with automated phone trees. I haven’t had to call, but they have a good reputation for technical support and customer service.

Stay Tuned for Part 2

Check back for updates in this blog series. I still have to complete cleaning, complete assembly, tune everything with my A-Line It, wax the beds, hook up the electrical, and make initial cuts. I’d like to hear from you: do you own Grizzly tools and how have they worked for you? Do you know of American tool manufacturers? Any tips for cleanup or setup? What are your favorite brands, and why? Leave a comment and let me know.

Thomas Walnut Dresser – Could Shop Night Go Any Better?

Wow. What a couple of nights I’ve had in the shop. Last night after Fifi (the three year-old assistant) went to bed, I cranked on the drawer boxes making sure they were installed so that the faces would be flush with the fronts. The cut edges on the top got rounded over, sanded, and two coats of shellac. I was in the flow all the way to midnight.

Tonight was even better. I spent less than two hours in the shop and finished the trim along the bottom, and got all the drawer faces cut perfectly, even when the opening wasn’t perfect. The faces are from one piece, so the grain will flow across the front of the dresser continuously.

Next time in the shop I’ll trim out the faces and install them, making any final adjustments for a flush fit. After that all that is left is to apply the finish!